Jesus Died Spiritually = JDS = doctrines of devils

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Subject: Jesus Died Spiritually
JDS - doctrines of devils

The JDS doctrine, abbreviated for Jesus Died Spiritually, teaches simply that our Lord Jesus Christ had to die spiritually in hell in order to fully and completely redeem mankind from our sin and its effect, namely death. And then He had to be reborn, literally a born again man. Now in addition to this there are other facets to the JDS theology. For instance, JDS teaches that Christ had to take upon Himself the nature of Satan while He hung on the cross. JDS teaches that the spirit of Jesus, after His physical death on the cross, had to go to hell and literally suffer and be tormented by Satan himself and demons for the 3 days and 3 nights that He was there in hell. Then the spirit of Jesus spiritually dies after all of this suffering at the hands of Satan and his demons and then God breathes new life into the dead spirit of our Lord and then our Lord is raised from the grave. This is the teaching of JDS doctrine. Certa i n WOFers believe that Jesus spiritually died in the garden of Gethsemane or at some time prior to His crucifixion. What I present in this post are scriptural reasons why JDS is scripturally and thus doctrinally invalid.

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( A ) JDS – some scriptures to consider; the blood of the covenant

[1] But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teach e rs among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
[2] And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
[3] And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. - 2 Peter 2:1-3

[11] I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there i s no saviour. - Isaiah 43:11

[5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; - I Tim. 2:5

[24] And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. - Heb. 12:24

[26] And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.
[27] And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, s a ying, Drink ye all of it;
[28] For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
- Matt. 26:26-28

[22] And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body.
[23] And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.
[24] And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
- Mark 14:22-2 4

[19] And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
[20] Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. - Luke 22:19,20

[23] For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
[24] And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and sa i d, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
[25] After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
- I Cor. 11:23-25

[14] In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: - Col. 1:14

[13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
[14] For h e is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
[15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
[16] And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
- Eph. 2:13-15

[20] And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himse l f; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
[21] And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
[22] In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: - Col. 1:20-22

[6] As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
[7] Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and suppli c ations with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
[8] Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
[9] And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
- Heb. 5:6-9

[10] By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
- Heb. 10:10

[8] But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
[9] Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
[10] For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. - Romans 5:8-10

[18] (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
[19] Whose end is destruction, whose God is the i r belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) - Philippians 3:18,19

( JDS theology goes against the reason and doctrine of the communion of our Lord. The above scriptures clearly and plainly show that our justfication and our redemption was purchased with the shed blood of Jesus Christ. The communion service is a memorial service for our Lord by which we remember that it was His shed blood which paid the price for the sins of mankind. It was the physical flesh bo d y of our Lord Jesus which was broken and reconciled mankind back to our Holy, Heavenly Father. No where in the above scripture is there even any hint that Jesus had to die spiritually to fully and completely pay the price for the sins of mankind. A spirit has no blood in it to give, therefore Jesus had to become a flesh and blood man in order to fulfill His work as the sacrificial Lamb of God by shedding His sinless blood. If we believe and teach the JDS theology we mock our Lords’ sacrific e and our memorial to Him in the communion service. We are in truth as Paul writes to the Philippians, enemies of the cross. )
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( B ) Did Christ take on Satans’ nature? Did the divine light of Christ go out as He took on Satans’ nature in His Spirit on the cross?

[5] This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. - I John 1:5

[ 58] Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. - John 8:58

[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[4] In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
[5] And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:1-5

[9] That was the true L ight, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
[10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
[11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
[12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
[14] And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. - John 1:9-14

[8] Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. - Heb. 13:8

[23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
- Romans 6:23

[14] Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
[15] For we have not an high priest wh i ch cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. - Heb. 4:14,15

[18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
[19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
[20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these l ast times for you,
[21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. - I Peter 1:18-21

( These verses of scripture show that Jesus is the Light and He is unchangable. Peter clearly tells us that mankind was not redeemed with corruptible things. If Jesus took on the nature of Satan on the cross then He became corrupted and therefore could not logically redeem mankind. He then failed in His work of saving mankind from sin and death. Furthermore, if such a drastic change occurred in the nature of Jesus, then Jesus is not the same yesterday, today and forever. So once again we see the blatant fault and heresy of the JDS doctrine. )
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( C ) Did Jesus become sin

[21] For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. - 2 Cor. 5:21

[3] For what the l a w could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: - Rom. 8:3

( Jesus did become sin. Jesus became sin in His flesh body but not His Spirit. He did not obtain a sinful nature or the nature of Satan in His spirit. Jesus became sin only in His flesh while crucified on the cross. He was sent to earth in human flesh form so that the problem and end result of sin could be justifiably judge d by a Holy God in the flesh on the cross. Jesus was the sacrificial lamb of God who shed His natural sinless blood for sinful mankind. Jesus became the bearer of sin in His flesh, His natural body, so that His natural body would take the judgement, the justified condemnation for sin on the cross. Jesus never had sin in His Spirit. Jesus did not die a spiritual death but a natural death. Jesus did not pay the penalty of sin in His Spirit in hell nor in the garden of Gethsemane. He did n o t purchase our redemption by suffering and dying in hell. Jesus bought our redemption, our salvation by paying the penalty for sin in His flesh on the cross, shedding His sinless blood. )

[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
- 1 Tim. 3:16

[13] And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your fle s h, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
[14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
[15] And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. - Col. 2:13-15

[18] Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tr a dition from your fathers;
[19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
[20] Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times
for you,
[21] Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. - I Peter 1:18-21
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( D ) The Lords’ destination after the cross

[39] And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
[40] But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
[41] And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
[42] And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
[43] And Jesus said unto him, Verily I sa y unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
- Luke 23:39-43

[46] And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. - Luke 23:46

( The word commend means to give, to intrust and commit oneself over to the care of another for the specifice purpose of preservation. And preservation being the process of keeping or to be kept from injury, destruction, death or decay. So from the Lords’ o w n words we read that He specifically placed His Spirit into the care and trust of the Father for the preservation of His Spirit. Jesus did not spiritually die or suffer at the hands of Satan or demons in hell. )
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( E ) So did Christ go to the region of hell? If so, for what purpose?

[25] For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not b e moved:
[26] Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
[27] Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
[28] Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
[29] Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
[30] T herefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
[31] He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
[32] This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. - Acts 2:25-32

[8] Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave g ifts unto men.
[9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
[10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) - Eph. 4:8-10

[18] For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
[19] By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
[20] Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. - I Peter 3:18-20

( None of these scriptures give any hint or indication to state that Christ died spiritually in hell though He went to hell. Christ suffered for our sins on the cross. Christ purchased our redemption on the cross. Christ said it is finished, the work of redemption on the cross. He did not die spiritually and suffer in hell for three days and nights by Satan or demons to buy our redemption and bring us to God. It all occurred on the cross where He shed His sinless blood. If Christ is preaching in hell, according to 1 Peter 3:19, if Christ is spoiling principalities and powers making a open shew of them and triumphing over them then how can He do that and be spiritually dead and suffer torment for our sins at the same time? )

[13] And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
[14] Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
[15] And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. - Col. 2:13-15

( According to Paul we again see that Christ paid for our sin, our trespasses at the cross. Furthermore we see t hat Christ spoils principalities and powers. He triumphs over them. There is no indication anywhere in these verses of scripture that Christ suffered, was tormented or died in the depths of hell. Nor was He at any time at the mercy of Satan or demons. )
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( F ) Teachers of JDS theology

Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Fred Price, Joyce Meyer
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/quotes.html#Hagi n
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/bibletruths/copeland.htm
http://www.wecareministries.co.uk/Copelandlateststatements.html
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/quotes.html#Hinn
http://www.geocities.com/bob_hunter/meyer.html
http://www.geocities.com/bob_hunter/price.html

[18] (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
[19] Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in t heir shame, who mind earthly things.) - Phil. 3:18,19

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