The "Spiritual Mapping" of Youth With A Mission Understanding the Territorial Spirits
 Presented by The Thorn Street Chronicles

"I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints." Jude 1:3b

There are certain corner stones which have made the "casting about by every wind of doctrine" and "spiritual abuse" possible in YWAM. It is important to understand some of the things on this web page if you really want to understand present, confusing trends and movements in YWAM and other similar organizations.

 

The Apostle Paul said "Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood. I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears. 'Now I commit you to God and to the word of his grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.'" Acts 20:28-32

 

Youth With A Mission (YWAM) Information

My YWAM Daze Original version (1986) from the book Lead Us Not Into Deception
(now available for download) by Dr. Alan Gomes of Talbot Theological Seminary.

My 1979 YWAM Daze Diary First time publication of my diary from 1979 when I was still under the spell of MGT but had been set free from the spell of blind obedience to "the Lord's anointed." 

Hearing Voices in the Dark An evaluation of the book Is That Really You, God? Hearing the Voice of God by Loren Cunningham and his sister Janice Rogers. Approx. 40 pages of revealing, documented information -- with comments. Revised and updated August 21, 2001

Christi-Anarchy This interview is of a person who was excommunicated by YWAM. From his home in Queensland, Australia, Dave Andrews spoke to Shoot the Messenger's editor, Paul Mitchell.

The author of Christi-Anarchy, Dave Andrews, writes about his painful excommunication from YWAM Leaders of the International Council claimed that God told them to do it. See Hearing Voices in the Dark if you want to learn how God speaks to the founder and members of YWAM.

The Rick Ross website contains several articles by former YWAMers who relate their experiences.

A Former YWAM Staffer Looks at Rick Ross’ Article on Youth With A Mission by John Woodman, June 2000. After reading the information at the Ross website, you may want to read this defense of YWAM to hear both sides of the story.

This page at the Apologetics Index contains important information about the history, teaching and practice of YWAM. "Problems with YWAM were not just limited to cultic behavior of some of its leaders, but included the teaching of aberrant theology." http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/y05.html

"Like many groups birthed out of the Jesus movement in the 1960s, YWAM emphasized the importance of relationship with God rather than the doctrine of God. This led, perhaps innocently, to a devaluing of theology. While none of YWAM's early or current leaders came from questionable denominational backgrounds, it seemed like discernment was lacking. This led to YWAM leadership's introduction of Moral Government theology (MGT) to YWAM students worldwide." Walter Jones [pseudonym] 
http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/y02.html

Saturated in Abuse at YWAM Maui as recounted by Walter Jones [pseudonym] "I came to my DTS in Maui with high expectations of serving my God. I went through my DTS relatively happy, but had a nagging feeling that something was 'off.' It was only after my DTS, after I joined as a staff person that I realized the gross extent of manipulation and abuse going on." http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/y03.html

Concern About Shepherding In 1975, Pat Robertson wrote a letter to the "Florida Five" who started the teaching on Shepherding. His letter addresses the negative and ungodly results the practice can have. It was calm compared to C. Peter Wagner's "New Paradigm" and the rise of the apostles and prophets.

Joy Dawson of Youth With A Mission (YWAM) Joins Forces with Benny Hinn by Sandy Simpson, 1/28/02. A LINK

Correspondence about YWAM and Moral Government Theology Correspondence and letters dating as far back as 1988. Updated with letters from September 2001. Greg Robertson

Scrolling emails This is a page that contains several emails that can be scrolled through and read quickly. Some against this web site and some for it.

These lengthy email correspondences are very revealing about the deceptive spirit that has taken some people captive. I have tried to be very honest and open in my responses, even though sometimes caustic. More than 30 pages of correspondence to the same person are on this page. Includes pertinent information about YWAM, Moral Government Theology, George Otis Jr, spiritual mapping, Basilia Schlink, cultic abuse, etc.

Moral Government Theology; George Otis Jr; Transformations

George Otis Jr on Sacrifice Although some fifty million people have viewed George Otis Jr's Transformations videos, probably only a few hundred know what he believes when it comes to systematic theology. He is doing a good job of keeping his views hidden. This page contains quotes by Mr. Otis on sacrifice and pictures from a culture that still practices it. 

The Land of the Giants quotes by George Otis Jr with comments and quotes from other sources. The Moral Government Theology viewpoints, that he learned in YWAM, are still present!

The God They Never Knew by George Otis Jr. Includes many quotes from the book with comments by G. L. Robertson. Some of the most serious problems in YWAM have come from the theological system advocated by Mr. Otis, which, incidentally, he learned at the YWAM School of Evangelism in Lausanne, Switzerland.

The George Otis Jr Lectures on Moral Government Theology at the YWAM base in Tacoma, Washington, 1981. This revealing document tells the truth about Otis, is his own words. With additional comments added August 29, 2001.

Robertson and Otis together This is a picture of a newspaper clipping from 1975 with George Otis Jr and Greg Robertson (author of many pages at this website) on the same page.

A Spiritual Map of the Borobudur Temple in Java "It is the height of irony that God is in His temple and tells us to be silent before Him, yet the spiritual mappers go to the temple of idols and are silent before them!"

Thorn Street Lessons About Spiritual Mapping Includes concise information about spiritual mapping and spiritual warfare in Bali, Jakarta, Borobudur, Brunei, Europe, South Africa, Argentina, and Columbia.

Invasions From the Dark Side by George Otis Jr. The editors of Charisma report: "Although Charisma normally focuses on the Holy Spirit's work, we believe it is sometimes appropriate to alert our readers to what the devil is doing." (It is amazing how things are worded sometimes!)

Lead Us Not Into Deception, by Dr. Alan Gomes of Talbot Theological Seminary. At Dr. Gomes website you can download the book in its entirety. This is must reading for mappers who are seeking to understand what is behind contemporary events in YWAM and other organizations. "Must reading" for the "lover of truth and sound doctrine." Also, while at his website, check out the qualifications and other publications of Dr. Gomes. 

The False God and Gospel of Moral Government Theology This is a careful analysis of Moral Government Theology by Professor E. Calvin Beisner. Professor Beisner's scholarship and documentation is unmatched by anything I have read. This is an analysis of a cornerstone of the spiritual heritage in Youth With a Mission. var yviContents=
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Must reading for the serious mapper! 

George Otis and his Fallacious Teachings  Johan Malan Abstract: Confronted with increased opposition, the producer of the two Transformations videos tries to conceal his grave theological errors but does not abandon them.

Transformations or Re-Transformation This is the starting point for the four following articles on transformations. There is also a  summary (not included here).

Unbelievable facts An update about the Cali revival from official news reports. "The revival of car bomb attacks has sparked fears of a . . . ."

Transformations or Deception? This is a link to a web site with a comparison of revival claims by Mr. Otis and his Sentinel Group, with contrary reports from other investigative sources. One of Otis's claims is that "almost no one in history has seen these results." 

Transformations are also being talked about in the New Age. Read some of what Maitreya is saying about these last days.

Theology Relevant to the Moral Government System

The Lord Our Righteousness by John Wesley. This sermon by Wesley shows conclusively that contemporary Moral Government Theology should not properly be called Arminianism.  "For whereas all the world was not able to pay any part toward our ransom, it pleased Him, without any of our deserving, to prepare for us Christ’s body and blood, whereby our ransom might be paid, and his justice satisfied. Christ, therefore, is now the righteousness of all them that truly believe in him." Wesley also had to deal with those who denied the imputation of Christ's righteousness to the believer. He deals with them gracefully.

Perfect Righteousness, Your Inheritance -- Claim It! by David Wilkerson. Pastor Wilkerson, the founder of Teen Challenge, was already on the side of "Christ's righteousness being imputed to the believer" as far back as 1996. There is no evidence that he ever taught anything else. A LINK

The Legacy of Charles Finney by Michael Horton. If you want to understand Youth With A Mission and other organizations which engender a similar ethos, you must understand the theology of Charles Finney. In this essay, Mr. Horton looks at Finney in the light of 16th century Reformation theology.

Also see liars-revival and information about a book evaluating "Territorial Spirits" http://www.christianfocus.com/bookfile/mentor/territorial_spirits_and_world_evangelism.htm http://www.worthynews.com/news-features/liars-revival.html

Moral Government Theology: Is It Pelagian? by Greg Robertson. "An analysis of the false doctrine I learned in YWAM. Now, after more than 20 years have passed since I was indoctrinated, I still have problems related to the false teaching. Includes links for further study." 

Atonement by Greg Robertson. Explains the historic Christian views on atonement from various sources, with highlights from personal experience in Youth With A Mission and the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod.

Abelard's Atonement by Greg Robertson. This paper investigates the view of atonement propagated by Peter Abelard (1079-1142). Written at Concordia Theological Seminary, Fort Wayne, IN; 1988. Good help to develop a full understanding of atonement.

The "Open View" of God

Some of the things that were taught in YWAM in its early years (and is still taught in some cases) under the auspices of Moral Government Theology, has now surfaced again in the body of Christ as a view which is variously called "the Open View of God," "Free-Will Theism," or "the Openness of God." The view has been modified from its earlier Moral Government days and and the people who popularized it in the early decades of YWAM are for the most part not even mentioned in the current literature. It is also different in respect to its adherents and promoters. In the earlier days it was almost entirely limited to those who were not seminary educated, or to those who were indoctrinated with it in YWAM or other organizations that adopted the Moral Government Theology system. Now there are people who have climbed on board who could legitimately be called scholars. 

The following links will help you in your studies if you wish to further investigate this new way of thinking about God:

 Book Review

The Openness of God. A Biblical Challenge to the Traditional Understanding of God, by Clark Pinnock, Richard Rice, John Sanders, William Hasker, David Basinger; Downers Grove, IL: Inter Varsity Press, 1994. 202 pp. Paperback $14.99.

Reviewed by Dr. Roger Nicole

"This volume constitutes a frontal attack on the Reformed conception of God as expressed in its confessions of faith and in its orthodox theologians. It also challenges the Lutheran view, particularly Luther's and the Missouri Synod's; the evangelical Arminian position, advocated in multifarious denominations; the traditional Roman Catholic view, notably Augustine's and his followers; the Eastern Orthodox position; not to speak of some non-Christian religions, notably Islam. One could not, therefore, fault the authors for lacking courage, not to speak of audacity."

For the complete review, go here: http://www.founders.org/FJ22/reviews.html 

It would be an interesting study to "spiritually map" the recent occurrence of teaching that denies God's foreknowledge, i.e., where did these "scholars" pick up their direction into this stuff? What does their spiritual DNA look like? If anybody has any solid information on this, please drop us a line at Thorn Street Chronicles promo777@yahoo.com .

  In Defense of YWAM

 A Former YWAM Staffer Looks at Rick Ross’ Article on Youth With A Mission by John Woodman, June 2000 http://www.greatwebsolutions.com/jmw/ross-0.htm  In October of 1990, Rick Ross, a self-employed consultant on controversial religious groups, wrote an article concerning Youth With A Mission (also known as YWAM). This 1990 article is freely available via the Internet at his web site, http://www.rickross.com/.

 Rick Ross’ Psychoanalysis of Youth With A Mission; Conclusions http://www.greatwebsolutions.com/jmw/ross-15.htm

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