- From our email inquiries:
- << Hi, my name is M.R. and I have been using your website
as a resource to help other believers understand that we are
being inundated with false teachings and ministries. I wanted
to give you some information on a new ministry in Virginia called
the Church Resource Ministries - http://www.crmnet.org. The reason
I am concerned about this ministry is that my sister and my brother-in-law
have left the Vineyard in Anaheim of which was good but after
reading this ministries history I found that they endorse
Dr. Peter Wagner views and practices.
I am curious if you guys can do some research on this ministry
so that we can expose whether or not they teach sound doctrine
I look forward to your response,
keep the faith that has saved and sealed us in Christ, M
<< Hi M,
In going a bit further this ministry you are looking at uses
the program "innerChange" which is applied to gang
members, and prisoners advocated by President Bush to Colson's
Colson is known to be ecumenical and pushing the Pope's agenda.
Even participated in a book about the subject matter. "Evangelicals
and Catholics Together."
Subj: Re: reply to inquiry
Date: 8/9/03 1:00:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time
we appreciate your encouragement and that you are getting educated.
We checked out the ministry you are concerned about and looking
at their history is where you'll find the evidence that they
are ecumenical WHICH IS THE POPE'S AND THE POLITICAL AGENDA.
From their website: What Is Our History?
Church Resource Ministries (CRM) was founded July 1, 1980, by
a small group of men and women highly committed to world evangelization
and convinced of the centrality of the local church in God's
plan to reach the world for Christ. All of these individuals
had broad experience in personal discipleship (primarily gained
through staff or lay involvement with the Navigators) and all
had a deep love for the local church with considerable experience
in Christian discipleship training in that context.
Two local churches which were also very significant in the early
days of CRM were Briarwood Presbyterian Church, Birmingham,
Alabama, and the First Evangelical Free Church of Fullerton,
California. Both willingly provided an environment where aspects
of CRM's ministry could be put to the test and tried.
Also extremely influential in the forming of the organization
was the School of World Mission and Institute of Church Growth,
Fuller Theological Seminary.
[FULLER IS WHERE THE THINK TANK BEGAN AND FROM THERE THEY WENT
WORLD-WIDE MOST OF THE MAJOR WORLD WIDE MINISTRIES HAVE ROOTS
IN FULLER TO CROSS OVER INTO ALL DENOMINATIONS WITH THEIR
CRM is greatly indebted to the Church Growth Movement, of which
the Fuller School of World Mission is the leading proponent,for
providing much of the theoretical and theological understanding
of the context toward which CRM's ministry was to be focused,
namely the local church.
[PSYCHOLOGY SHOULD HAVE NO PLACE IN THE MINISTRY!! IT WAS FOUNDED
BY SOME WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE LODGE IN EUROPE ]
Whereas CRM's Navigator heritage emphasized the importance
of individuals and the one-to-one facet of disciple building,the
Church Growth Movement provided a much appreciated emphasis on
the sociological components of the evangelistic mandate. This
additional emphasis on the behavioral sciences
was, and continues to be, particularly useful to CRM in comprehending
the complexities of the church and how the biblical essentials
of discipleship and growth can be accomplished in that environment.
Imbedded in CRM from both the Navigator background and Church
Growth thinking is a deep-seated spirituality and biblical passion
for the supernatural hand of God to sovereignly work to bless
and multiply His Church around the globe. No expertise or training
for ministry replaces the Lordship of Christ exercised by the
power of the Holy Spirit.
CRM's initial staff were motivated by the needs that they observed
in the American Church for a quality of growth and discipleship
that was taken for granted in organizations such as the Navigators,
Campus Crusade for Christ and other mission entities.
[ Navigators were found to be involved with a large corporation
using the church to aid corporation in setting up overseas. Campus
Crusades is also ecumenical and political.]
[A book in the apostasy section, 7th page http://www.a2zbookdepot.com]
Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon: Nelson Rockefeller
and Evangelism in the Age of Oil - by Gerard Colby, Charlotte
1) 960 pages, Publisher: HarperCollins; (May 1995)
2) Paperback: 1008 pages Publisher: Janice Temple; Reprint edition
(May 1996) ASIN: 0060927232
click on BOOKREVIEW
Click on this link to listen to interview with author
Although there were notable exceptions, most American churches
were struggling in the late 1970s and early 80s to incorporate
basic discipleship training and Church Growth principles. Although
the equipping,training and mobilizing of the laity was often
given vocal support, the churches successfully producing healthy,
multiplying disciples were the exception rather than the rule.
Consequently, all of CRM's early staff believed that the local
church was the "sleeping giant of world evangelization"with
vast untapped human resources waiting to be awakened and directed
toward the fulfilling of Christ's Great Commission.
Before CRM was formed, counsel was diligently sought from a broad
range of Christian leaders and well-informed Christian laymen
and women as to the need for such an organization. Without exception,the
advice was to move ahead. There was widespread enthusiasm for
a mission organization willing to focus its energies on the Church,
the training and equipping of her people, and the development
One of the more perceptive and encouraging pieces of initial
advice was from Dr. C. Peter Wagner, professor of Church
Growth that Fuller School of World Mission and widely
accepted as one of the leading church growth authorities in the
U.S. today. Pete commented that he felt that there were at least
5,000 churches (of the nearly 300,000 or so churches in America
at that time) which would be responsive to the kind of ministry
envisioned with CRM. He went on to say that he believed eventually
CRM staff would be involved in helping initiate churches as well
as helping renew and strengthen existing churches.
[Peter Wagner has a Psychologist on his Board of Directors
and is ecumenical ]
His foresight has proven true as this "second track"
of church planting began to receive more and more time and attention
from the organization's staff during the 1980s.
CRM's commitment in the beginning years was to"start small,
go deep, and then think big" regarding the growth of the
ministry and its impact. This was taken to mean carefully building
solid foundations based on proven experience and expertise, selectively
recruiting staff, and building a base in the United States which
would serve to provide the manpower and resources for the cross-cultural
and world-wide expansion of the work.
CRM's leadership realized at the organization's inception, and
is increasingly aware today, that the needs of God's people in
the US pale in comparison to the other numerous areas of the
world where the Spirit of God is moving in unprecedented fashion.
CRM is deeply committed to the "ta ethne"of which the
Great Commission speaks. This means the task for which God has
called this ministry is not fulfilled until there is a viable
evangelical church serious about and committed to the biblical
mandate of world evangelization in every people group in the
Today, staff or staff teams serve in major metropolitan areas
throughout the US, Europe, Russia, South America, Australia and
Southeast Asia. Sixty percent of the staff are involved in direct
cross-cultural ministry among a broad variety of different people
groups. The staff minister across a broad social/cultural
spectrum. CRM's ministry among the poor and disenfranchised,
primarily in urban areas, is called "InnerCHANGE."
Although committed to historic Christianity and evangelical theology,
CRM staff minister among churches from a multitude of various
denominational persuasions. [who knows what Bibles or Statements
of Faith ]
You see how erroneous this is.
Thanks for the opportunity to serve you,
In Christ Jesus,