Without Walls International Church Can't Reach Deal To Buy Carpenter's Home Church

 

 


LAKELAND -- By Cary McMullen Ledger Religion Editor - The dreams of a Tampa megachurch to buy the massive Carpenter's Home Church sanctuary in Lakeland have come to an end.

Without Walls International Church, a 14,000-member Pentecostal church, concluded a 10 month arrangement with Carpenter's Home on May 31, ending its Saturday night worship services and closing off negotiations to buy the 10,000-seat sanctuary.

Inability to agree on a price doomed the sale. Jennifer Mallan, an associate pastor at Without Walls said Thursday the figures were confidential but the two sides were "a couple of million dollars" apart.

In February, negotiations reached a stalemate when the Tampa church's offer of $10 million was rejected. The board of Carpenter's Home set an asking price of $12.5 million.

At that time, it appeared Without Walls would have to end the Saturday night worship services at Carpenter's Home it had started last August. Carpenter's Home canceled a lease agreement between the two, but then it appeared that negotiations revived, and Without Walls continued to hold worship services until three weeks ago.

However, Shane Simmons, Karl Strader's son-in-law and an associate pastor at Carpenter's Home who handled the church's negotiations, said Thursday that Without Walls had made no new offers.

"We were never offered anything higher than the price we turned down," he said.

The lease agreement expired May 31 and Without Walls didn't renew it, Simmons said. Without Walls is a multiracial congregation started in 1991 by Randy and Paula White and is known for its emphasis on urban ministry. About a year ago, the Whites approached Carpenter's Home senior pastor Karl Strader about the possibility of buying the sanctuary to expand their ministry into Central Florida.

Carpenter's Home, formerly First Assembly of God in Lakeland, was built in 1985 at a cost of $12 million. Despite the sanctuary's size, the congregation never grew larger than about 5,000. Controversy over Strader's leadership in 1989 resulted in about 800 members leaving and forming Victory Church. In 1995, Strader's son, Dan, was convicted of fraud charges, further weakening the church. About 2,000 people attend the church at present.

The two churches entered into a three-stage agreement in July. In the initial stage, the Whites traveled to Lakeland on Saturdays to lead spirited worship services. In addition to its worship services, Without Walls initiated some outreach ministries, such as food distribution to the needy.

Under the terms of the agreement, after six months Without Walls could buy the sanctuary, and in a third stage, Carpenter's Home could build a smaller sanctuary on part of the site, which it would retain.

When negotiations stalled in February, there was public disagreement between the two churches over who had pulled out of the deal, but Simmons was careful to avoid recriminations this week.

"I have nothing negative to say. We couldn't agree on a price," Simmons said.

Mallan said Without Walls had looked at another piece of property when the deal with Carpenter's Home broke down but decided against moving into Lakeland for now out of respect for Strader.

"There was some innuendo that the work we were doing was hurting his work, and Pastor Randy didn't want that. He really wanted to honor Pastor Karl in his later years. We probably would have continued to rent, but (White) didn't want to interfere with anything Pastor Karl was doing," she said.

Mallan said Without Walls would continue its outreach ministry in Lakeland, distributing food in public housing complexes and conducting open-air Sunday schools. She said the church would consider co-sponsoring conferences with Carpenter's Home.

Simmons said Carpenter's Home had no other offers and intends to expand the number of concerts and special events held at the church.

"We've added to our events staff and we're planning to do twice as many events," he said. "It's a great ministry to the community, and it's profitable to us."

The name Strader carries weight in charismatic circles. Strader, 72, has been pastor of Carpenters Home for 35 years and has ministered at various churches nationwide. A Pentecostal church under the Assemblies of God denomination, Carpenters Home has owned radio stations, hosted concerts and conferences featuring big names in Christianity, such as evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne, gospel singer CeCe Winans and Christian music artists Jars of Clay and Michael W. Smith reported the St. Petersburg Times.

But the past 15 years have also carried controversy. Some Assemblies of God leaders, including televangelist Jimmy Swaggart, have publicly questioned Strader's theological teachings, according to the Lakeland Ledger.

"We've been to hell and back," Strader said during a recent church service. About 800 of Strader's members left to form their own church in 1989, after a dispute over his leadership.

Then in 1994, Strader's son, Daniel, was arrested on fraud charges. He was convicted the next year and is serving a 45-year sentence in federal prison. A small number of fraud victims were members of the church, causing further tension. Strader said he believed his son was innocent and was treated unfairly by the system. But his son's appeals have been denied. Strader asked members of Without Walls to pray for his son's release, saying seven years behind bars was enough for a "white collar crime."

At one time membership rolls swelled to about 5,000. Strader and a jubilant congregation had the 10,000-seat auditorium built, believing that in time it would be filled to capacity. Instead, attendance dwindled. (Published the St. Petersburg Times August 12, 2002 )

CARPENTER'S HOME FINANCES

In our local news recently is a report that the Carpenter's Home Church, under the leadership of Karl Strader, will be sold.
I wish The Ledger would investigate and publish the finances of this deal. The Carpenter's Home Church started out as an Assembly of God church before Karl Strader took control.
I have relatives who were members of that church since the 1940s, and they helped pay for it.
I have visited often in the past and heard many of Rev. Strader's sermons. I was puzzled why he often said in his sermons that anyone who disagreed with him should not make a fuss, just walk out the back door and leave.
His congregation has now dwindled down and he is left with a multimilliondollar facility.
My relatives left after Rev. Strader became a more-autocratic minister, there were questions about his family being given jobs at the church and his son was convicted of defrauding church members (mostly elderly ones) out of their life savings.
It seems to me part of the problem is that the Assembly of God denomination allows ministers to preside over board meetings instead of a church member, as in other more democratically operated Protestant churches.
Nonetheless, it was good Assembly of God people who paid for that Carpenter's Home Church property, and any benefits from the sale should go to the Assembly of God denomination.
The question before the public is, will it?

TRAVIS EPSHIRE
(Published The Ledger Saturday, August 31, 2002)

Daniel Strader's brother, Stephen Strader and his sisters, Karla and Dawn also wrote a letter which was also reprinted in the Ledger. The letter solicited funds for Strader's legal defense. Investigators were charging him with 259 felony counts and for scheming to defraud Central Florida's elderly residents. The letter didn't talk about the real victims of Dan's crimes but stated:

"Dan is facing bankruptcy and life imprisonment because of mistakes he made in his business. Because of these mistakes and the economy, some of Dan's business clients have suffered losses. While many of these good people have been willing to give Dan the opportunity to recovery financially, others have been unwilling or unable to give Dan more time to make things right.
The system which holds Dan's fate in its hands seems almost sinister in its inclination, conscious or not to damage Dad and the church. The press and some of Dan's investors have not hesitated to drag out Dad and the Church into the mire."
All we want for Danny is that he be treated fairly, and that he be given the opportunity to set things right. He has been faithful to the Church and to his small family [ whose electricity was cut off 14 times in one year because of non payment of bills by Dan ]. He loves God and feels the call of God on his life. He is seeking the Lord now more than ever in his 6 by 10 cell with only his Bible. Being human, Danny has made mistakes, but he is sincere in his desire to make things right. He wants all of his investors and business associates to be made whole."
Our reasons for contacting you is to let you know about this trouble, because we know that you will want to show your love and support to our parents. We also want you to know how critical this situation is. Dan has no money, and cannot afford to pay a qualified lawyer to defend himself. Our parents cannot afford to handle the expenses of Danny's defense by themselves."

Mary wrote a letter to the Editor titled "Strader gutless, selfish" which was printed in February, 1995, in the Ledger, concerning Daniel's decision to withdraw his guilty plea. For Strader was accused of soliciting investments in income producing properties and in his company and instead the money was converted to cash and deposited for his personal use and pleaded guilty. She stated:

A truly revolting and shameful display. The Reverend Strader should be double ashamed - not only did he raise a criminal, he raised a gutless selfish whiner.
Later, we were to learn that Dan's parents, the Straders, lived in a debt free $400,000 home on a lake next to a golf course drove two luxury towncars and made a salary in the six figure bracket not including special perks.
While other parents, who sold their homes and possessions to help one of their daughters or sons in their time of trouble, the Straders in their usual style asked others to contribute and made only small token contributions themselves. For their other children protested that dad was not to spend their inheritance in defending Dan.
If Dan was innocent as Pastor Karl Strader said many times, why didn't Karl Strader, as a concerned parent sell any of his assets, especially the luxury towncars to help him? This was something that haunted me and spoke loudly to me that something was really wrong in the pastor's behavior and actions as a Christian.

Dan Strader, who earned in prison in Florida a Master's degree in Theology plans to co-author a book with his father,his silent thieving partner.

Dan cannot accept the fact of his guilt in real crimes of praying with and preying on the members of his father's church with the help of his father. Deceived Dan doesn't understand that God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble for Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, died prematurely at the age 65, as a direct result of the stress and betrayal by his friend and pastor, Karl Strader, and the deeds and actions of his son, Daniel Strader. Roy wrote the following:

Dan Strader was convicted of stealing our life savings of $ 100,000.00 by using lies and deceit and since your question about the effect on our lives is probably the must important factor to you and the Parole Commission, let me simply repeat the words of Jerry Hill, state attorney of Polk County: "The crimes of Dan Strader have done more damage to more elderly people than any homicide that I have prosecuted "

Dan's thefts have forced us to sell our house and most of our personal possessions and move into a trailer. He has shown absolutely no remorse and Judge Robert Doyel who presided over this case stated: "The first step toward rehabilitation is admission of wrong doing, and therefore I feel that Dan Strader will never be rehabilitated."

What Mr. Strader did was calculated and carefully planned with a willful disregard for the lives of others to such an unbelievable degree of extremity that my wife and I still cannot understand why anyone would try to destroy us in this fashion, especially since we had given faithful service to the Carpenter's Church in Lakeland pastored by Karl Strader, Dan's Father.

The leadership of the Assembly of God denomination both in Lakeland and Missouri would not accept the testimony of Roy Aldrich that he was robbed and raped by money changers and wolves in sheep's clothing in the house of God. But the State of Florida who cared about justice, righteousness and truth accepted the words and testimony of Roy Aldrich about the Strader's.

The State prosecutors proved their case and convinced the jurors that Dan Strader devised an elaborate scheme to attract cash in the real-estate and mortgage investments. He was selling the securities without a license and that the securities were unregistered. This was done in an organized method amounting to Racketeer-Influence and Corrupt Organizations, or RICO Act.

As a result Daniel Strader, 37, was sentenced to 45 years in prison in August 1995. He was convicted of 238 felony counts for bilking 57 mostly elderly investors, some members of the church, out of $2.3 million by selling investments in properties that didn't exist or already had liens against them.

Roy and Patricia Aldrich of Lakeland, a wonderful couple, were among the elderly who were members of the Assembly of God and Carpenter's Home Church, Lakeland, Florida who were deeply hurt. Roy had written to important and influential people at AG, including District Superintendent Don Lunsford and General Superintendent Thomas Trask, requesting their help concerning Pastor Karl Strader. But they didn't get true justice!

But the evil and wicked deeds of Dan Strader and his 238 counts of theft, fraud and racketeering will continue to haunt Carpenter's Home Church in Lakeland. Although Dan appealed his conviction the 2nd District Court of Appeal upheld the conviction and sentence in 1996. In 1999, Strader began a new appeal, contending he didn't get adequate representation from his lawyer, Jack Edmund of Bartow, during the 1995 trial. Strader alleged that his accomplice Pernice lied in his testimony during the trial at the prompting of prosecutors.

On April 1, 2002 Attorneys for Dan Strader have taken their case to federal court. They filed a motion in the Middle District of Florida in Tampa to have the court review the process of the state proceedings in the trial against Strader. Attorneys had appealed the case to the 2nd District Court of Appeal in Lakeland after Circuit Judge Donald Jacobsen turned down their post-conviction relief petition. Jacobsen was not the judge at Strader's trial, but in 2001 he ruled against Strader's request for a new trial. A three-judge panel from the appeal court upheld Jacobsen's ruling without comment in a decision released March 11, 2002.

The Lakeland Ledger reported that April was a bittersweet month for Strader. On Easter Sunday, he marked his 35th anniversary as pastor of Carpenter's Home Church. A week earlier, the latest appeal by his convicted son, Daniel, was denied. In the twilight of his career, Karl David Strader is a living alloy of tradition and progress, success and loss.

In one generation, he has seen his Pentecostal tradition grow in numbers and in acceptance. And by most accounts, he has been an innovator, freely associating with faith groups outside Pentecostalism and borrowing ideas from them. He built an empire at Carpenter's Home in North Lakeland that has at times included a 10,000-seat sanctuary, a national TV audience, a private school and a retirement home. But his innovations were not appreciated by everyone, and 11 years ago, strife decimated Carpenter's Home. Today, the cavernous sanctuary is perhaps a quarter full on Sundays, and the TV broadcasts have been cut way back.

Strader bears an even deeper wound. Those who know him say the scandal surrounding his son's arrest and 1995 conviction on fraud charges have affected him more deeply than any other setback. Yet at 72, Strader soldiers on, preaching and laying hands on people who come forward in hopes of a healing touch. He says he will remain as pastor of Carpenter's Home as long as his health is good. He tells his congregation, "I'm past the age scripture tells me is given to us of three score and 10. But God has given me a wonderful life of health and strength. I'm shooting for 100."

But the Ledger also reported recently that the Carpenter's Home Church, under the leadership of Karl Strader, will be sold. It doesn't profit to be a thief and to raise up a thief! Yes, crime doesn't pay.

Dan was not an entrepreneur, he was a first class con artist who used religious words, quoted the Bible, prayed with and preyed on his victims. He modeled himself after his protégé and hero-his Dad, and did the things that the Senior Pastor and the Strader family did in Carpenter's Home Church continually. Unfortunately, there are others in the Assembly of God who do the same things, even pastors and superintendents.

The facts would later show the Straders for what they are and how they:
. Ignored the plight of the elderly victims and raise tens of thousands of dollars for Dan.
. Ignored moral discrepancies in Dan's multiple admission of lying and guilt, and declare victory over their enemies, which never came.
. Identified the forces of darkness as anyone who would question their views and positions on matters, especially in regards to Dan's crimes.
. Ridiculed and lampooned Dan's victims, by deriding them for testifying against Dan.
. Arrogantly refused to admit doing any significant wrong and say it was the fault of others a conspiracy out to get them, because of who they are, high profile Christians.
. Repeatedly used the pulpit of Carpenter's Home church to issue misleading statements about Dan and others such as "we are being crucified by the press" and using lies and deceptions.
. Issued unbelievable hate and slander from a public pulpit, on three investors or victims, who were embezzled by a con artist.
. Used people and things in Carpenter's Home Church for their own hidden agendas. Jim, who was used by the Straders for his considerable talent, and to do the punishing work of building Carpenter's Home Church, then threw him out like a gum wrapper. Jim believed in checks and balances, and this was something that Karl and Dan Strader didn't do or practice. Therefore, they hated Jim for loving the truth, and sought a means, at all costs, even at the price of splitting the church, to see him removed from his position.
. Denied members and staff members access to elected deacons, and used others on staff as Roy Aldrich had written to work them over with "a rubber hose" for not submitting to their demands and wishes.
. Ensured that their salaries were confidential and their positions were maintained at all costs, while others less fortunate and more talented had to leave, even though they had given their best and expected a degree of respect for their loyalty and hard work. It wasn't what you did but who you know, and the same is true in churches today.

So it safe to assume that Dan Strader is not getting out of prison soon because the God who put him there is not stupid and neither are others?
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030620/NEWS/306200377/1004

Dr. Randy White

Senior Pastor of Without Walls International Church

Dr. Randy White is the powerhouse founder, and Senior Pastor of Without Walls International Church (WWIC), a multiracial, multicultural congregation that has grown from five members to 10,000 members since 1991. Under Dr. White's leadership, Without Walls International Church has twice been named one of the fastest-growing churches in the nation by Church Growth Today.

Known for his dynamic preaching and practical teaching styles, Dr. White brings God's Word to life through sometimes intense, often humorous, and always relevant sermons, and dramatic, entertaining illustrated sermons. He communicates the message of Christ with sincerity while bringing it down to concrete realities for the year 2001 and beyond.

Tenacity and brokenness underscore his success as a respected, and successful evangelist, author and pastor. As an ordained minister he is also known for his pursuit of evangelism and restoration, Randy White comes from a rich heritage of preachers. At age 13, he decided he too would devote his life to ministry by preaching in prisons, on the streets, and in nursing homes.

Still, Randy held on to his dream of becoming a minister. He entered Lee College (now Lee University) and graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in Ministerial Studies and a Master's Degree in Divinity, and an honorary doctorate in Humane Letters.

His early ministry positions included work with T.L. Lowery - one of the leading pastors in the Church of God denomination, who would later become his mentor. He served on staff with Dr. Lowery and his church of over 5,000 members, for more than 7 years.

In 1990, Randy and his wife Paula, made a leap of faith. They began to reach out to the people that nobody else wanted: the "unchurched", the broken, the derelicts, the Mafia, and the children in the inner cities. Together, in 1991, they eventually opened the doors of South Tampa Christian Center, which would later become Without Walls International Church.

Ten years later, this thriving church has confounded and amazed those who warned the Whites that the "poor" could not support a ministry. Today, Without Wall's membership and the weekly attendance are tangible evidence of its success. Its diverse congregation is a vegetable soup mixture of Africans, African Americans, Whites, Pacific South Islanders, Asians, Hispanics, and Europeans from throughout the world. They are rich, poor, homeless, men, women, children, corporate professionals, CEOs, professional athletes, all searching for one common thing: "Restoration".

Traveling extensively both nationally and internationally, Dr. White's message revolves around the theme of calling people to repentance before God.

He also trains individuals and congregations on how to reach the unchurched, the homeless, and the inner city. Dr. White gives practical and insightful instruction on how to take cities for God.

His vision for the city of Tampa has resulted in more than 200 in-reach and outreach ministries that serve over 15,000 people per week, with an estimated 1,100 conversions weekly. Without Wall's core philosophy is to meet people where they are - and that is often outside the four walls of a church building.

His ministry has been recognized by some of the most influential people of our times, including former U.S. president Bill Clinton, former U.S. president George Bush, Sr., former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, former Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, General Colin Powell, former Vice President Dan Quyale and Boxing's heavy weigh champion, Evander Holyfield for its uncommon approach to solving challenges that affect our nation and the world. Dr. White has taught and trained in Russia, Israel, Puerto Rico, Australia, Singapore, Hawaii, Uganda, South Africa, Canada, Germany, England, Holland and throughout the United States

While the Tampa Tribune in an article by Michelle Bearden titled 'Expensive Walls' reported about Randy Whites $ 2.1 million home:

TAMPA - When preachers Randy and Paula White bought the $2.1 million red-brick house on Bayshore Boulevard last month, they were already thinking ahead to November. ``We always do a `Table in the Wilderness' Thanksgiving dinner for the homeless,'' says Randy White, senior pastor at Without Walls International Church. ``Now that we have the space to do it in our own yard, we'd like to find a way to bus them here for the party.''

The Whites, who came to Tampa 13 years ago, say they sometimes worried they wouldn't have rent money after they started their church in 1991.

Last year, they claimed a combined income of $600,000. Of that, $179,000 is Randy White's annual salary from Without Walls, a church that claims 15,000 members and brings in $10 million yearly in revenues. Co-pastor Paula White, who is gaining international acclaim as a televangelist and speaker, is paid $120,000. They also receive an $80,000 housing allowance from the church.

`GROSSLY UNDERPAID'

The Whites also are accountable to an 18-member church board, which sets their salaries, pension plan and housing allowance. According to an outside financial accounting firm, they are not compensated enough for their work.

``For the size of their church and its revenues, they're grossly underpaid,'' says H. Michael Chitwood, who heads Chitwood & Chitwood financial services company. The Tennessee firm works with nonprofit organizations to determine benefit plans and salaries, based on what the Internal Revenue Service allows.

Neither the Ledger nor the Tribune reported on the fact that Randy White and Karl Strader were CEO's of their religious incorporated non profit organization and what this entails.

For the record, none of the major thieving evangelists or CEO's such Randy White, Kenneth Copeland, Oral Roberts, Rodney Howard Browne, Franklin Graham, Karl Strader Or Stephen Strader have earned doctorate degrees never mind a degree in business administration.

Secular presidents of universities and non profit charitable organizations have earned doctorate degrees and are qualified to earn their salary unlike many Pentecostal religious leaders who have honorary degrees bestowed on them by Oral Roberts university.

But greedy and thieving TV evangelists always justify what they are doing because they are uncomfortable with their thievery. Richard Dortch, VP of the PTL club, now an ex felon stated that when he was earning very little he didn't care if people knew but when he was stealing $400,000 he didn't want anybody to know? There are always tell a tale signs about their thievery and live styles that give them away.

Unlike Jesus Christ who owned nothing, Televangelists Jan and Paul Crouch who lost their tax exemption for their Trinity Broadcasting Network are definitely not lacking in any material possession. Their home is described as "a palatial estate with ocean and city views and was purchased for around five million dollars. It has six bedrooms, nine bathrooms, a billiard room, a climate-controlled wine cellar, a sweeping staircase and a crystal chandelier. The three-story, nearly 9,500-square-foot house, has an elevator, also has a six-car garage, a tennis court and a pool with a fountain.

Trinity Broadcasting, established in 1973, has more than 768 TV stations on the air worldwide. The Crouches oversee a $100-million-plus-a-year enterprise. One of the Crouch estates is TBN's ranch in Colleyville, TX, just minutes away from the Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. The 80-plus acre ranch contains eight houses and horse stables, is estimated to be worth about $10 million.

Mind you President Clinton did and President Bush does release his total salary and his personal income tax to the public while Billy and Franklin Graham do not. But adulterous and lying Bill Clinton seems to have more integrity and accountability than Southern Baptist Evangelists do in this area?

THERE IS NO HONEST REASON FOR FRANKLIN GRAHAM AND HIS RELIGIOUS FRIENDS TO HIDE THEIR TOTAL SALARIES UNLESS THEY ARE RAPISTS AND THIEVES WHO USE OTHERS FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH AND SECRET AGENDAS? [ Source: Wally Duncaster ]

References
http://www.strang.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002728.html
http://www.wcie.net/danielstrader/
http://www.davidicke.net/religiousfrauds/pentecostal/godfraud.html
http://www.cephasministry.com/pentecostals_carpenters_church.html
http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/strader.htm
http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/dan.htm
http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/hinn.htm
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http://www.sptimes.com/2002/08/12/Floridian/Strength_in_numbers.shtml
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http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/lewd.html
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/08/12/Floridian/Strength_in_numbers.shtml

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